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	<title>Comments on: First GPL v3 Discussion Draft Released</title>
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		<title>By: falconred</title>
		<link>http://www.joegratz.net/2006/01/16/first-gpl-v3-discussion-draft-released/comment-page-1/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>falconred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you sir, I knew I was missing something.  My head gets stuck in crim-law these days.

Oh, and do you have new business cards yet?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you sir, I knew I was missing something.  My head gets stuck in crim-law these days.</p>
<p>Oh, and do you have new business cards yet?  <img src='http://www.joegratz.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gratz</title>
		<link>http://www.joegratz.net/2006/01/16/first-gpl-v3-discussion-draft-released/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Gratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite.

For criminal 1201 violations, it might be basically like your analogy -- but the prosecutor will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was an effective TPM, and the contract clause could be a handy source of doubt.

The real impact is in civil 1201 actions, since the party who&#039;s suing will also be a party to the GPL. The plaintiff&#039;s statement that the software isn&#039;t a TPM will be admissible in court, and they&#039;ll have the burden of overcoming that evidence -- which will really look silly to a jury.

Further, the defendant would probably be able to prove that his conduct was authorized because, in the same paragraph, the GPL draft states that &quot;distribution of a covered work as part of a system to generate or access certain data constitutes general permission at least for development, distribution and use, under this License, of other software capable of accessing the same data&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite.</p>
<p>For criminal 1201 violations, it might be basically like your analogy &#8212; but the prosecutor will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was an effective TPM, and the contract clause could be a handy source of doubt.</p>
<p>The real impact is in civil 1201 actions, since the party who&#8217;s suing will also be a party to the GPL. The plaintiff&#8217;s statement that the software isn&#8217;t a TPM will be admissible in court, and they&#8217;ll have the burden of overcoming that evidence &#8212; which will really look silly to a jury.</p>
<p>Further, the defendant would probably be able to prove that his conduct was authorized because, in the same paragraph, the GPL draft states that &#8220;distribution of a covered work as part of a system to generate or access certain data constitutes general permission at least for development, distribution and use, under this License, of other software capable of accessing the same data&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: falconred</title>
		<link>http://www.joegratz.net/2006/01/16/first-gpl-v3-discussion-draft-released/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>falconred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that bit about &quot;no GPLv3′d work ever “constitutes part of an effective technological protection measure”&quot; going to fly in court?

Say you sell me your 2002 Honda Civic.  However our contract of sale says &quot;the parties agree this is not the sale of a car, but in fact a horse&quot;.  I get pulled over and arrested for driving without a license.  I point at our contract saying they can&#039;t charge me, because this isn&#039;t a car, so I don&#039;t need a license.  Judge laughs at me and I&#039;m going to jail/receiving a hefty fine.

Isn&#039;t the situation the same with the proposed GPL clause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that bit about &#8220;no GPLv3′d work ever “constitutes part of an effective technological protection measure”&#8221; going to fly in court?</p>
<p>Say you sell me your 2002 Honda Civic.  However our contract of sale says &#8220;the parties agree this is not the sale of a car, but in fact a horse&#8221;.  I get pulled over and arrested for driving without a license.  I point at our contract saying they can&#8217;t charge me, because this isn&#8217;t a car, so I don&#8217;t need a license.  Judge laughs at me and I&#8217;m going to jail/receiving a hefty fine.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the situation the same with the proposed GPL clause?</p>
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