Comments on: Google To Digitize World’s Libraries http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/ Joe Gratz's blog Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:55:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mary Minow http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-358 Mary Minow Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:06:08 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-358 I see my comment went through that time... but with a (c) symbol instead of ( c ) which is what I intended! Also, this time I linked my name to an entry on the librarylaw blog about the publishers buy-in to google print. I see my comment went through that time… but with a (c) symbol instead of ( c ) which is what I intended! Also, this time I linked my name to an entry on the librarylaw blog about the publishers buy-in to google print.

]]> By: Mary Minow http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-357 Mary Minow Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:02:23 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-357 If this is a repeat, I apologize - I sent this and it seemed to disappear. James - 108 needs to be revised. Even if (a) was satisfied, I don't see anything that helps enough. (b) allows preservation of unpublished works (c) allows copies of published works that are out-of-print and damaged, deteriorating or stolen, (d)(e) allows copies for users on request -- but the library can't keep a copy I think this project (and the Internet Archive million book project) will help the case that 108 needs to be updated to make reasonable copies like the ones planned by google print. Meanwhile, we're back to fair use. If this is a repeat, I apologize – I sent this and it seemed to disappear.

James – 108 needs to be revised. Even if (a) was satisfied, I don’t see anything that helps enough. (b) allows preservation of unpublished works (c) allows copies of published works that are out-of-print and damaged, deteriorating or stolen, (d)(e) allows copies for users on request — but the library can’t keep a copy

I think this project (and the Internet Archive million book project) will help the case that 108 needs to be updated to make reasonable copies like the ones planned by google print. Meanwhile, we’re back to fair use.

]]> By: James Grimmelmann http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-356 James Grimmelmann Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:42:26 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-356 It's interesting how painfully close they come to the specific exemptions in 17 U.S.C. s. 108. So far as I can tell, if the employees of the library made the scans themselves, instead of outsourcing to Google, it would be fine, but that this plan falls outside of the 108(a) test. Maybe they're going to assert fair use based on a combination of the four factors with the near-miss under 108? It’s interesting how painfully close they come to the specific exemptions in 17 U.S.C. s. 108. So far as I can tell, if the employees of the library made the scans themselves, instead of outsourcing to Google, it would be fine, but that this plan falls outside of the 108(a) test. Maybe they’re going to assert fair use based on a combination of the four factors with the near-miss under 108?

]]> By: Randy Zagar http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-355 Randy Zagar Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:16:30 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-355 From a lay perspective, this would appear to be fair use. As Lessig has pointed out, however, this just means means Google gets to hire a lawyer. I'd like to see this go to court, actually, just so we could see what fair use really means in this digital era... From a lay perspective, this would appear to be fair use. As Lessig has pointed out, however, this just means means Google gets to hire a lawyer. I’d like to see this go to court, actually, just so we could see what fair use really means in this digital era…

]]> By: Copyfight http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-354 Copyfight Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:48:48 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-354 <strong>Google Wow</strong> John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world's best research libraries: "It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property... Google Wow
John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world’s best research libraries: “It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property…

]]> By: Copyfight http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-353 Copyfight Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:34:53 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-353 <strong>Google Wow</strong> John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world's best research libraries: "It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property... Google Wow
John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world’s best research libraries: “It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property…

]]> By: Copyfight http://www.joegratz.net/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-352 Copyfight Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:34:02 +0000 http://www.joegratz.net/archives/2004/12/14/google-to-digitize-worlds-libraries/#comment-352 <strong>Google Wow</strong> John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world's best research libraries: "It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property... Google Wow
John Palfrey on the tremendously exciting news that Google will digitize and make searchable some of world’s best research libraries: “It brings with it a host of issues about the need to revisit, and likely to reform, the intellectual property…

]]>